Showing posts with label Tim Clancy. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tim Clancy. Show all posts

Wednesday, January 21, 2009

The F.N. Barksdale Fisherman's Poem, by Tim Clancy

We are honored again to have a submission by Tim Clancy. Tom wrote recently of Decker boxes, but this time he tells the background and history of a unique piece of ephemera: an original piece of angling art by F.N. Barksdale.

The F.N. Barksdale Fisherman's Poem, by Tim Clancy

Here's another one of my Favorite field finds.  Found it early in my collecting days in an antique store in Morristown NJ.  It's an original charcoal & Ink dated and signed July 1910 by an "F. N. Barksdale".  He was pretty easy to research because he came from a prominent family and was head of Advertising for the Pennsylvania Railroad.  We have all seen different versions of this classic "Fisherman's Poem"  where others took the liberty of adding a line or two.  I've seen similar versions on post cards and such.  But this is the original.  It's comes in it's original simple gilded frame (15" x 19") and the art (10" x 13"), which appears to be covered by matting, is actually mounted on  plain paper or board, so the the image shows the entire piece. 


Barksdale, like I said was pretty famous, and was one of the first ad men to utilize large format albumen photographs in advertising.  He was also a noted writer and artist.  He's usually referred to as Colonel Francis Nelson Barksdale, but I don't know anything of any military history, he was born in Charlottesville VA in 1855, but he'd seem to be too young to have fought fought in the Civil War. However being college educated, he'd likely be an officer if he joined the military after college.  For a brief period he lived in the wealthy town of Short Hills New Jersey which is just a short distance from Morristown, so possibly this came out of his estate. 

One of my absolute favorite pieces and it holds a special place at my bar upstairs in my boat house.  I can't imagine this ever being for sale so please no offers.



Thanks Tim! What an awesome piece and some great history for us ephemera fans.

-- Dr. Todd

Wednesday, December 31, 2008

A Photo Essay on Ans. B. Decker Boxes, by Tim Clancy

Today we are all fortunate to have a guest author here on the blog, Tim Clancy. You may remember Tim from his very interesting essay on his Lang's experience. Here, he illuminates one of his passions: Ans. B. Decker history.

Ans. B. Decker and his father and three brothers were all well known fishing guides on Lake Hopatcong, a huge resort beginning in the early 1880's and they were guiding and fishing artificial baits that early.  I personally believe that all early aluminum prop rotaries (Harkauf, Jacob Mick, Manhattan, etc) are likely of Decker manufacturer and just marketed by the other.  I don't think it was until the big companies like Heddon, Pflueger & Shakespeare, started copying his baits that he made a big point of promoting his name.

Here is a chronological listing of the known Decker boxes:



Most common of the Decker boxes, the Yellow folded picture box was used from 1915 until company ended in the mid 1930's



Brown Label Picture Box used from 1913-15



Both size Decker Grand Prize Bait (AKA Loving Cup Box) boxes, used in 1912 only



Recently found and earliest Decker Box known, possibly as early as 1907



Previously thought to be the earliest Decker box, dates from 1910 & 1911



Comparison of the two early Decker Blue Boxes. Larger Patent Applied for w/ Lake Hopatcong address is the earliest I'm aware of and predates 1910



Six different Decker boxes


All dates determined from various advertisements in early outdoor magazines and tackle catalogs.

One known box I don't have and would pay dearly for is the Decker Troller Box (it's about the size of an Al Foss early Tin).  Also don't know how the Decker Wobbler spoon was marketed, but I suspect on a card, would step up for that one also. 

I would also like to know from your bloggers if anyone else has an example of earliest box.  I knew this one was there for several years and never pursued it because I said I have the blue white label box, don't need another. Ran into the guy at a local auction and asked "does your box say Brooklyn or Lake Hopatcong on it?" He didn't remember and sent me a pic...and it was [soon] in my collection looking out on Lake Hopatcong with all it's siblings.


My many thanks to Tim for this most informative and interesting photo essay! I'd like to encourage anyone else who'd like to share information to drop me a note.

-- Dr. Todd

Wednesday, November 19, 2008

Lang's: Final Thoughts by Tim Clancy

Not to flog a dead horse, but the discussion that the recent Lang's auction (which for those who don't know actually finished at approximately $1.4 million, or right in the middle of the auction estimates--almost exactly at the same place as the last three Lang's auctions) caused more people to write long, detailed emails than any subject in recent memory. I guess only repaints inspires as much discourse as the variable price of fishing tackle...I've said my peace here and on Joe's and ORCA and Clark's and other boards about how I think this auction does NOT indicate a seriously weakened market, but you can respectfully disagree with me.

I'll leave the last word to Tim Clancy, as he is one of the few people who can actually speak about this last auction with real clarity as he consigned an important collection to it. Again, the "sky is falling" club will be surprised to learn Tim's overall assessment: "I was more than pleased with the overall results." But read it for yourself as it is a wonderful piece and I thank Tim for taking the time to write this, and to share this with all of us. It is exactly why I started this blog in the first place--to have a frank and open dialogue on issues of importance to us and to share information on the history of fishing.

Thoughts on Lang's

by Tim Clancy


I saw some of the discussion on Dr. Todd’s blog concerning the results of the recent Lang’s Auction and what some folks thought it meant for the future of our hobby. There’s a lot of uncertainty in the economy and it is going to affect the values of collections as more people find themselves with less discretionary income.

I don’t know rods, reels, art or books very well, but I am a long time (12+years) lure collector and feel I understand that arena fairly well. Plus I had about 60 lots in this recent auction and have had some time to analyze how my stuff performed. Some may wonder why I was selling some of my collection, because we have seen some large very advanced collections come to Lang’s over the last few years. Everybody sells for different reasons and mine is probably different than most.

I’m not getting out of the hobby (I just picked up a real pricey piece a couple of weeks ago) but I have acquired an interest in another field and was thinking about selling off part of my collection so I would have some money to pursue that….I was also aware that some very extraordinary stuff was going to be consigned by other collectors and that this auction would likely draw a little more attention than usual. That can be a double edged sword though because with so much high quality stuff in one auction some people could run out of money before my stuff even came up. It takes at least two bidders to drive the price.

John Ganung, from Lang’s, came to my home a few months month ago to pick up my items, and even then the economic landscape was not looking real rosey. But I decided to sell most of the better stuff I was bringing to shows that just hadn’t sold. Maybe I had them priced too high or maybe since I basically just do the Allentown Show not enough collectors were seeing them. I also had some neat items that I had found in the field, not really fishing related but of things you often see in Lang’s and generally go for a fair price. I had no idea what they were worth and the only way to find out was in an auction. I had bought stuff like this myself at Lang’s many times over the years. So off they went, along with my show baits.

The next group was the scary part. I put one of my four major or what I felt were my permanent collections in auction. It took me awhile to decide which one would go on the auction block but my goal was to raise some significant money for this new hobby. So something good had to go. The collection was what we all call a mature collection and probably in the top three of what is known to exist. But there are always some secretive closet collectors out there that have some real gems that no one even knows about. But this would be the largest collection of its type to ever go to auction. When a John Ganung is sitting in your house and holding a bait in his hand and says, “I knew this was out there but I never saw one or held one my hand” you know you got some good stuff.

But this is how it all worked out for me. Believe me it was nerve wracking, I did not have one reserve on anything. It was all going to sell for what the market would bear. But, it seemed each week as we got closer to the auction more, more bleak economic news came out.

The first group were 11 lots of those odd wall hanging type items I mentioned and they performed miserably. In the past these type items had always done well, because what’s a couple of hundred dollars for something that is really great looking, when you’re spending thousands on baits. But I realized less than 50% of the appraised values on this group. The only good thing was that they were not real valuable so the dollar amount was not too painful. But I was getting off to a bad start.

Next came eleven early rare misc. baits that covered different value ranges but averaged about $600-$700 in appraised value. Four fell in the range but seven came in about 40% below the low appraisal amount. This was starting to hurt. I was now over $3,000 below the average appraised amount and I had a long way to go.

Next group were eleven, I guess mid range misc. Heddon baits, that were appraised on average in the $300-$400 range. Just over half fell in the appraised range and for the most part the ones that fell short realized about 80% of value. There was one outliner that fell way short but I think, that while it was an extraordinary bait, the appraisal was a little too generous and I was actually fine with the price realized. So things were starting to look a little better.

But next up was that mature collection that took me 12 years and quite a bit of money to assemble. This group was nearly thirty different lots, some with multiple baits. There was no real pattern here. Some real great conditioned things went cheap, some fell right in the range and some went over the high end of the appraisal. But what made the day for me was that more than a handful of the rarest baits went way over the high appraisal range. Since this was all very high end stuff the dollar amounts more than made up for some of the earlier losses. Everything I had in auction was appraised at between $20K-$30K and when everything was said and done I fell just a little under the mid range. All things considered, I was more than pleased with the overall results.

But what does this thumbnail sketch tell us about the direction of our hobby in these uncertain times? Well first there is still a lot of interest in this hobby, 2400 lots in two days, is pretty remarkable. Next, the rarest of the rare will always command a good price. When you own baits that there are only a handful known to exist, you’re not going to get hurt if you ever decide or need to cash out. Also if you are true collector this is a great time to buy because there are some great opportunities out there. I know right now some of the folks that bought some of my stuff are still looking at their newly acquired baits saying “I can’t believe I got this so cheap.” Enjoy them like I did. It took me over ten years, and several upgrades to put that group together. But don’t worry about me because those ultra rare ones left me just fine.

To the folks that stepped up and now own those toughies enjoy them because you probably won’t see another opportunity anytime soon to add baits that rare to your collection. And to whoever got my Donaly Weedless, please really enjoy that one, that is one of the rarest misc. baits out there…But most of all only collect because you truly enjoy it and not for some future anticipated profit and spend within your means and you’ll never be disappointed. If 12 years ago my real passion was golf and I joined a prestigious Country Club, or if I wanted to fish the pro circuit and bout a spanking new Ranger boat, I wouldn’t expect to be getting any money back after enjoying my hobby for a dozen years. This is a great hobby and we never really own any of this anyway, we’re really just temporary caretakers. When you’re long gone I suspect those baits you cherish today will be in someone else’s collection where they’ll get to enjoy them for a while.

What’s the future hold? What are the values going to be? What Clyde Harbin said so many years ago rings just as true today. “something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay." So just enjoy collecting for collecting's sake.


A thoughtful article and one that should give everyone, regardless of their position, food for thought. I want to personally thank everyone for taking the time to write me personally or who posted on the many active boards on-line about the subject. This is a sensational hobby and in trying times like this, we need to gravitate towards those things that are the most rewarding. I can't imagine another hobby as rewarding as this one.

-- Dr. Todd