tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2293404479643690316.post972095772582073476..comments2024-03-28T03:13:16.079-04:00Comments on Fishing for History: The History of Fishing and Fishing Tackle: Unraveling the Evans Weed Queen/Neptune by Chuck JulianTealhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05227788765970706674noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2293404479643690316.post-37458064846758649752020-06-23T13:40:32.332-04:002020-06-23T13:40:32.332-04:00The Evans Walton Company made battery plate separa...The Evans Walton Company made battery plate separators out of cedar strips. They made a lot of these for the car battery industry and it is what made Robert Evans a rich man.ChuckJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13524663295703270088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2293404479643690316.post-43106031082616324822017-04-07T20:50:01.696-04:002017-04-07T20:50:01.696-04:00My grandfather, Thomas Robert Walton, SR. was in b...My grandfather, Thomas Robert Walton, SR. was in business with Mr. Evans thus the Evans-Walton Co. He was an inventor and business investor. Unfortunately he died in 1943.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06265185792180034478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2293404479643690316.post-36518996662746700132016-05-07T09:18:40.032-04:002016-05-07T09:18:40.032-04:00A note on the lures for Neptune Bait that I had no...A note on the lures for Neptune Bait that I had not noticed before is the statement, "Pat Pend" stamped into the back side of the lure. I did not take mine off the card and had not previously looked under the trip mechanism. This puts the Neptune Bait Lures before the Evans Walton lures. John Boyko filed his patent application on Oct 25, 1934. The patent was issued March 12, 1935. This might be what George Richey noticed that convinced him that the cards were from the late 20s to early 1930s. The cards and lures were most likely manufactured in that period between 1934 and 1935. It is possible that the lures were in development well before that. You only need to file for a patent within one year of selling a product, so the "Pat Pend" statement could have been in anticipation of making a filing. They were clearly made before the patent was issued. I have looked at all the cards that I could find that were sold on the web or in books, of Neptune Bait Lures. None is revised in any way from another, other than there is more than one color scheme for the lures themselves. It seems to have only made a short run before being acquired by Evans-Walton.<br /><br />I spoke to Robert B. Evans Jr., who indicated that he knew nothing of his father's venture into fishing equipment. His father invested in a lot of things and was an avid fisherman. My guess is that he saw the Neptune Bait Lures and decided that better marketing and manufacturing could produce a more successful product in the market place.ChuckJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13524663295703270088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2293404479643690316.post-28185005184989303372015-04-02T09:15:46.916-04:002015-04-02T09:15:46.916-04:00One of my references in the original article was t...One of my references in the original article was that I had spoken to David J. Richey, brother of George Richey. For those of you not familiar with Dave Richey, he was a writer for The Detroit News and sold stories to Field and Stream, Outdoor Life, Sports Afield and many regional and national magazines. He was a much awarded outdoors writer and conservationist. Dave and George wrote a book together about Salmon Fishing and were both well known experts in fishing. I point this out only to let you know that Dave was not just someone who merely stated his brother had good reasons for his conclusions because he was his brother. Dave was indeed a well respected expert in the fields of fishing, outdoor writing and conservation. ChuckJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13524663295703270088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2293404479643690316.post-630278029883816932015-01-30T09:45:28.718-05:002015-01-30T09:45:28.718-05:00Having looked at as many images as I can find for ...Having looked at as many images as I can find for the Weed Queen, they are all including a flap on the end that is not on the Neptune lures nor on the patent for the lures. It makes little sense for someone copying another product, in this case, assuming that Neptune copied Weed Queen as has been alleged by some, for the copy to leave out part of the item being copied and go back to the original patent design. The Weed Queen lures, that I have seen, are all a little more professionally made. The steel is better plated, the paint is better grade and I have not seen any with glass eyes, though there may be some out there. In the obituary for Mr. Evans, it says that he prided himself in taking troubled companies and making them successful. All of these, but especially the fact that the Weed Queen lures have the extra flap, indicates to me that the Neptune Lures were the original lures and that the Weed Queen lures were probably produced later, after the company of Mr. Evans, Evans-Walton, acquired Neptune Bait and the patent. At that time, Mr. Evans was quite wealthy, having been in the business of making separator plates for lead acid batteries. Mr. Evans likely saw a product that he could improve the manufacturing of, packaging of and marketing of, and renamed it the Weed Queen. <br /><br />If you look at the Neptune Cards, you can see that the person who designed the card probably was either not well educated or from another country, so that he wouldn't notice that "snagless" was erroneously put in as "snakeless". My guess is that Mr. Wadah Koury was the owner of Neptune Bait, who maybe didn't write English very well. He probably designed the card himself.ChuckJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13524663295703270088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2293404479643690316.post-10322874199113138412014-01-17T18:48:16.556-05:002014-01-17T18:48:16.556-05:00Interesting article. I have one with a flap tail, ...Interesting article. I have one with a flap tail, no name stamped on it, just the patent number. The picture shown of the bottom should have the hooks on top of the tab so they would be pushed up and released outward when the tab is raised through the lever action caused by a fish biting down on the bottom lever bar.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14768040978094001799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2293404479643690316.post-25324348380945221172010-11-25T10:09:07.351-05:002010-11-25T10:09:07.351-05:00Only on the AMC angle. American Motors CEO George ...Only on the AMC angle. American Motors CEO George Romney, who retired in 63, later said that "his" company went down the drain when it abandoned his focus on small, economical, (dull), cars and tried to emulate the big boys with a full lineup.<br /><br />It makes me curious what sort of sparks must have flown between he and Mr. Evans<br /><br /><br />I've just finished doing my own bit for AMC history (our family had several models) and am not cruising around to see what else has been posted.<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/29gt6netom sheepandgoatshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03519896568648043000noreply@blogger.com